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Thursday, August 12, 2010

Fwd: [bangla-vision] Oye Shabbiray, stop telling lies. RE: Treachery is MULLANI Koki Kaukab and her spiritual ancestors



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From: kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Subject: [bangla-vision] Oye Shabbiray, stop telling lies. RE: Treachery is MULLANI Koki Kaukab and her spiritual ancestors


 

Shabbir does not have the capacity to write more than 5 lines.
So he pulls together quotes from here and there in the vain hope of  discrediting Hadithe Muhammad, pbuh.
 
He is trying and failing to do what Salman Rushdie tried.
 
The Qur'an is very explicit about sexual matters. Notice the use of the word FUROOJ in the Qur'an. It is the task of Islamic texts to be very clear about sex. 
 


Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:00:47 -0700
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Subject: Treachery is MULLANI Koki Kaukab and her spiritual ancestors
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THE MUWATTA OF IMAM MAALIK – Read and Reflect

[For Urdu, and double checking the references, see DOU ISLAM by Fazil Deeniyaat Dr. Ghulam Jeelani Barq]

"Imam" Waqidi claimed: Imam Maalik alone, transcribed 100,000 Ahadith. He learned from 900 teachers and by age 17 he was able to teach classes of Hadith. When the authenticity of MUWATTA (title of his compilation) was questioned, he suggested throwing it in water; if the water did not damage the writing, then that was to be taken as proof of its accuracy.

Muwatta was immersed in water and it remained unscathed. How much more gullible could one get?! (In fact, this frank forgery needs no comment. – Sheikh Abdul Muhsin bin Mullah Ali Al-Qari, "Musaffa", Shah Waliullah's commentary on Muwatta)

Imam Maalik bin Anas (b.93, d.179 AH = 796 CE) initially had over 10,000 Ahadith in his Muwatta. When he reviewed them, he found 8,780 of them doubtful and so kept only 1,720. [Didn't he do the water test on it and pass with flying colors?] He doesn't tell us what criterion he used to discard such a sizeable body of Ahadith. (Muwatta, Matba' Mujtabai pg 31, 1345 AH) Yet, we find such irrationalities in the Muwatta:

"One who kisses or even touches his wife must perform Wudhu (ablution)."
But, on the same page, "Hazrat Ayesha said that Rasooullah kissed one of his wives and then performed NAMAZ without doing Wudhu."

BE PREPARED FOR THIS ONE! Abu Salma bin Abdur Rahman bin 'Auf says: I asked Ayesha, "When does a bath become obligatory?" She replied, "When the head of the male organ enters the initial part of the vagina and the Khattan (genital tip) meets with the Khattan (genital tip), bath becomes obligatory." (Pg 16, also reported in Bukhari)

What! Could not Abu Salma ask his SAHABI father, or any of the hundreds of companions of the Prophet (S)? Why would he go to the honored lady and how did he escape her fury? Would Hazrat Ayesha be so shamelessly explicit?

But, deny this Hadith in front of a Mullah-minded Muslim and get ready for a verdict of infidelity. The rule of the game is, "Deny a single Hadith from Bukhari or Muslim and become a Kaafir." What a horrendous crime! Let Islam be strangled to death, the exalted Prophet and his wife be defamed, let people laugh and cry for Islam, but the Mullah will defend the criminal Muhadditheen at all cost except that you give him a feast of the white rooster and halwa.

While the Muhadditheen were forgers as well as mental slaves of the narrators, and our Mullahs are emotional slaves of both, fortunately, more and more Muslims are now paying attention to what has been said, rather than who said it. The time has come for us to liberate the True Islam from underneath tons of stinking garbage of fabricated Hadith.

Remember, all this nonsense is the treasure of our Mullahs that they peddle as DEEN. And the masses fall for it like the proverbial flies on filth.

Saheeh Muslim vol 1 pg 485, Mujtabai Printer bears out Muwatta: Rasoolullah said, "If a man loses his lust during intercourse before ejaculation, he only needs to wash his private parts and do Wudhu." Wow! What a precious bit of religious knowledge! Did the greatest ever revolutionary, busy as he was, the exalted Prophet, have the tendency and time for such silly gossip? Was he raising humanity to the yet unknown heights or burying them in vain thought and behavior?

The Night of Majesty: What does the Qur'an say?
97:1 Behold, We have revealed it (the Qur'an) in the Night of Majesty.
97:2 Ah, what will enlighten you what it is, the Night of Majesty!
97:5 Peace! It is a Message of Peace, and inevitably it shall dawn a new Morning of Enlightenment.

But Muwatta on page 98 brings down the glorious concept to dust:
"Look for Laila-tul-Qadr during the final ten days of Ramadhan, 21st, 23rd and 25th nights." Now the Mullahs and their victims stay up during these nights (and also the odd nights of the 27th and 29th Ramadhan) and make fool of others in the morning, "Wow! What glory we witnessed last night, light upon light, trees falling prostrate, golden clouds hovering upon us, the blessed, cool silvery winds!" They also claim that every prayer on this night is guaranteed acceptance. (Yet, they keep living in misery and greed day after day!)

The sleeping masses believe them and repent what spectacle they missed! They don't even venture to think why the wide awake security personnel, railway and airport employees, sailors and pilots, and the soldiers vigilant in their positions consistently fail to see this marvel! Perhaps, the marvels are visible only to the saintly Mullahs, for they have some exclusive rights.

Hazrat Umar said, "If people would not blame me for adding to the Qur'an, I would have added, 'If a mature man and a mature woman commit adultery, both of them must be stoned to death.' We used to recite this verse in the Qur'an." (Muwatta pg 348)

What happened to the Divine promise?

15:9 Behold! It is We Ourselves Who sent down this Reminder, and verily, it is We Who shall truly guard it. (6:116)

But "Imam" Bukhari later on comes forward to rescue "Imam" Maalik's mischief:
Umar bin Khattab said, "Allah sent Muhammad (S) and revealed unto him the Book in which there was the Ayah Rajm (verse for stoning the mature adulterers)."

What a malicious assault on Allah, the Qur'an, the Prophet (S) and his companions! Killing four birds with one stone!

Hazrat Umar said, "Refrain from eating meat. It can be as addictive as alcohol." (Muwatta 359) Could Hazrat Umar forbid the Permissible of the Qur'an?

The Muhadditheen evidently had a special grudge against Hazraat Umar and Ayesha for political reasons and for promoting a certain sect.

[I suspect they might have tampered with Muwatta as well. Please recall that the 'canonized' SAHAH SITTAH, the so-called Six Right Ones of Hadith all come from the Persian "Imams" Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Daud, Nisaai, Ibn Majah and Tirmizi. "Imam" Maalik is the most ancient Muhaddith, but he being the only Arab Hadith collector of note, his Muwatta is not included in the Right Ones. Strange, isn't it?]





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Subject: Re: Treachery is part of Ismaili history. RE: Ismailis mutilated Muslims. Document. RE: Tried to murder Salahuddin Ayyubi. Ismailis' history of hostility to Islam & Muslims. RE: dON'T CARE///Change//RE: How is it possible that Almighty God could leav
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Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 3:28 AM

There are no crusades. There are wars over politics, material gains, oil, land, etc. We have fuzzy loyalties between different nations over self interest

The days of warring over and because of religion is over. The Palestinian problem is not Judaism against Islam; it is over land. 

Time to wake up!!


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LoL A wahabi writing about Ismailis A must read for every wahabi :)
Carry on Kaukab :) I wont be harsh on you while I fast so chill till the Eid



On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:01 PM, kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn.com> wrote:

 
Latest Book: Review notes by Kaukab Siddique
 
Salah ad-Deen al-Ayubi
by Dr. Ali M. Sallabi
Three Volumes Hardcover by the International Islamic Publishing House, Saudi Arabia, 2010 
 
This is a scholarly contribution to the Islamic view of the Crusades. It brings out the division among the Muslims and Salah ad-Deen's success in overcoming disunity. It also highlights the struggle of great leaders who appeared before Salah ad-Deen and prepared the ground for his liberation of Jerusalem.  Salah ad-Deen and the other Muslim leaders were extremely generous in their treatment of the Crusaders, though they defeated and sometimes wiped-out the Crusader armies.
 
The greatest danger for Islam was from within the Muslim sects, the most venomous of which was the Ismaili (batini) sect which flourished under Fatimid rule in Egypt and under the "Assassins" of Alamut. Great Islamic leaders like Mawdood and Nizamul Mulk fell victim to these terrorists.   Salah ad-Deen himself was almost killed on two occasions by the Ismailis.
 
Today we find the Crusaders again in the Muslim world with their base in Israel, their armies in Iraq and Afghanistan and their armadas controlling the sea lanes.  Behind them are Ismailis of today, led by the Aga Khan who is a great friend of the Israelis and NATO and has vast sums at his disposal to be able to infiltrate the Muslim world and set up Westernizing organizations. 
 
This book is a must read for those who know that history often repeats itself. 

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:49:04 +0500
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I dont see this Wahabi giving any references other than ones from the books of Wahabi hate mongers Today wahabis are the biggest supporters of fasad in the world
Wahabis betrayed islamic ummah always

References :
Creation of Saudi Arab ( betrayal to Usmanvi khilafat )
Creation of Kuwait Creation of other Arab monarchs

Salahiuddin ayabi Egypt at the time of Mustali how come Nizari ismailis can be involved in killing attempts when they them selves were against eh mustalis government in egypts talk sence Mr. Kaukab

your knowledge has big and deep holes in it

Today Shah Karim is doing what Prophet Muhammad & Maula Ali would have done if they been here alive in the current times.

Educating the masses and helping the world

they would have cast you and your mercenaries out of Islamic fold prophet PBUH was savior to humanity Nauzubillah not a killer :) all your wahabis are hate mongers and killers. Prophet PBUH only fought when he was attacked. Wahabis are attacking every thing and especially civilians examples are in every news paper

Rest are again your stories with out references so I dont bother responding to it.

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:27 PM, kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn.com> wrote:
I don't see this Ismaili giving any references. Little reading is a dangerous thing.
 
The point I am making is that Ismailis have betrayed Islam and Muslims throughout history.
The Fatimid Ismailis let the crusaders take Islamic cities.
When Salahuddin tried to fight crusaders, Ismailis tried to kill him.
 
Treachery is part of Ismaili way of life.
 
Today Aga Khan supports Israel, NATO and all tyrants.
 
His educational institutions are taking Muslims away from Islam.
Aga Khan is westernized and is westernizing with his money. He is with the enemies of Islam, as the Fatimids were, except that he cannot kill openly.
 Ali, r.a., opposed tyranny. Aga Khan supports ALL tyrants, be they King Abdullah or Mubarak of Egypt.
 
The Ismailis listen to Aga Khan not to Qur'an, just like Fatimids who destroyed Islamic law.
We need Salahuddin to liberate Jerusalem and to put an end to Ismaili treachery.
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 10:01:10 +0500
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LOL Kaukab Can you get one resource that is not as biased as who ever you are refering from. 

BY the way I asked you before do you have any proofs that Education health care and microfinance are doing any harm to Muslim world operated by AKDN :)

Come on you can do betta than this

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 3:33 AM, kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn.com> wrote:
Ismaili "caliphate" of the Fatimids was established in Tunis . It was founded by Ubaydallah al-Mahdi, the Shi'ii Ismaili. "He openly reviled the Companions of the Prophet, pbuh and his wives ....and he claimed that the Companions of the Prophet , peace and blessings of Allah be on them] apostatized after his death except he a few... Sunnis were subjected to EXTREME persecution.... " He then started indirectly reviling the Prophet, pbuh, himself." Names of the Sahabah were written on pieces of paper which were then attached to the heads of dead donkeys and sheep and hung up at the doors of shops.
 
Sunnis who objected "were killed and their bodies mutilated. [Source: Juhood Ulama al-Maghrib by Ibraheem Tilhami, p.291]
 
The Ismailis today have no power, so they are using Israel, America and dictators to kill Muslims.
Aga Khan is the friend of the blood thirsty enemies of Islam.
 
[To be continued.]

 

Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:49:49 +0500
Subject: Re: Tried to murder Salahuddin Ayyubi. Ismailis' history of hostility to Islam & Muslims. RE: dON'T CARE///Change//RE: How is it possible that Almighty God could leave millions of His creatures without an IMAM
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why, do you need time to distort facts .. I don't need this much time. What did muawiya do to Islam  & Shiaism. What did Yazid do to Islam ? Why were shias Killed by Hajjaj bin yousuf why was salahuddin so very much against Shias.. Can you point out massacres against Sunnis by shias ????  other than war injuries ... Ismailis in particular & shias in general have been persecuted by Sunnis since 1400 Years  How many Shia Imams were murdered by Sunnis ??? What harm did they do to Sunnis ??? in recent time Taliban Butchered hundred of thousands of Shias ( ismaili & Asna Ashri ) combine in Afghnistan, in Pakistan Iraq, Somalia & in Iran

Why ismalis lived in isolated communities all around the world ? it is because of the hostilities from Sunni majority 

If Ismailis killed Saljuks at the time of Hasan bin Sabbah that was due to there continuous attack on ismailis and that even after properly giving them advance advices to step back...

that were your historian who at that time easily blamed every political murder from Asia to Europe to Ismailis...

Distorting the facts is easy for you so keep doing it.

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:38 AM, kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn.com> wrote:
Looks like you don't know your history of terrible Ismaili crimes against top Islamic leaders and against Islam in general.

I'll teach you in a few days.


Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:56:24 +0500
Subject: Re: Tried to murder Salahuddin Ayyubi. Ismailis' history of hostility to Islam & Muslims. RE: dON'T CARE///Change//RE: How is it possible that Almighty God could leave millions of His creatures without an IMAM
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See this is What I Call Hatred and sectarian biasness :)

Should I start naming who sided with imperialistic power to achieve what

what about Saudi Arab lebonan Syria Iraq Kuwait  UAE, Qatar Maskat ???

People do you see now that finally he is acknowledging the fact that Yes Ismailis have been in the history for 1400 Years and way before ZXionist were existed so atleast I appreciate him acknowledging the history .
Ismailis have always sided with there Imam ? What did Fatimids do to Islam ?? Sunnis lived peacefully in Fatimids empire .. Salauhiddin defeated the Ismaili Mustaili Khilafat Ismaili Nizaris shifted to Iran at that time so you are technically wrong again.
Islam allowed killing in defence do you really think ismailis as being minority were moving around with swords to kill any one and every one ??? I dont expect sucha achildish argument from some one of your age.

Shah Karim does what is best for the Islam .. trying to educate the masses and trying to provide them with Healthcare Ask your mullahs with Petro dollars to this instead to spreading hatred and soon Muslim world will get the power they had back




On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:32 PM, kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn.com> wrote:
Throughout history Ismailis have sided with the enemies of Islam.
Ubayd established the Fatimid Ismaili "caliphate"  which committed some of the worst crimes in Muslim history.
Salahudding Ayyubi had to defeat them before he could liberate Jerusalem.
 
The Nizari Ismailis tried to kill Salahuddin, one of the greatest heroes of Islam.
Fortunately they failed.
 
It is not surprising that today Aga Khan is an ally of the crusaders who have occupied Muslim lands.
That's what his ancestors too did.
 
No one should be surprised that Hasni Essa [Aga Khani] is distributing Zionist propaganda including the TIME MAGAZINE photo.
 
History repeats itself.
 
Aga Khan does not have power like that of the Fatimids, so he is working through crusader occupation forces, "Muslim" dictators and Zionists.
 


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Subject: dON'T CARE///Change//RE: How is it possible that Almighty God could leave millions of His creatures without an IMAM
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 20:52:06 -0700

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WHO CARES WHAT SHE DOES! NOW EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO ARE THESE
ABUSERS.
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 21:52:49 -0700
From: Naseem>
Subject:> Change to Hinduism
To: >pardah52@hotmail.com

Salamu A. Kum: Sister Gulshan:
Tell this woman zina:
"It is so easy to copy and paste. One doesn't n need any knowledge.
Let us see for a change, if she can talk about Hinduism her religion.
She must have full knowledge of it. She won't need the copy paste:
Nobody can become a Muslim by copying pasting. One has to accept
Quran, Allah and Islam to become a Muslim".
>>>>>>>
Take care.
Salam


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Basra is a big city and the main port of Iraq. It is situated at the mouth of river Euphrates.
 
There, in a big mosque, about 700 AD, people used to assemble to discuss various subjects on Islamic rules and laws.
 
A famous learned priest/clergyman by name Amr Bin Ubeid was once preaching on the subject of Imamate (An Islamic term referring to "leadership" of Imams who followed Prophet Muhammad (saw) in leadership of Islam, according to Shi'a belief.
 
He was surrounded by a big crowd of people who were asking various questions on the subject.
 
Suddenly, a young and intelligent student of Imam Jafar al-Sadiq (AS) by name of Hesham, entered the gathering and sat down in the first row.
 
He addressed the priest saying that he was a stranger and would like to ask some questions.
 
On getting the permission to do so, he asked the following:
 
 
Hesham: First, Sir! May I please know if you have eyes?
 
Amr: Young Boy! Is this a question to ask?
 
Hesham: Whatever it may be, this is my question to which I shall appreciate your answer.
 
Amr: All right! You are at liberty to ask, even though it is a foolish question.
 
Hesham: As I have already asked, Sir, may I please know if you have eyes?
Amr: Yes, I have.
 
Hesham: For what use are they?
Amr: With eyes, I can see faces of people and color of various things.
 
Hesham: And you have a nose also?
Amr: Yes. I do have one.
 
Hesham: What is its function?
Amr: I smell the scent and odor by it.
 
Hesham: And do you have a mouth?
Amr: Yes I do have.
 
Hesham: For what use is it?
Amr: I can talk to people or taste food and drink with it.
 
Hesham: Do you have ears?
Amr: Yes, I have two ears.
 
Hesham: What is their function?
Amr: I can hear voices by them.
 
Hesham: And do you have a mind?
Amr: Almighty has bestowed me with that also.
 
Hesham: What is its use?
Amr: With that I am able to distinguish things whatever is felt by the other senses like hands, eyes, ears, nose, tongue etc. In case of a difference, I am able to solve with its help. In case of a doubt, I can dispel with it and be sure.
 
Hesham: So, does it mean that despite being sound and healthy, all these organs cannot function independently without the help of the mind.
Amr: No, No! None of the organs can function independently without the help of the mind.
 
Hesham: Why is it so? After all, the organs are perfect and strong enough to differentiate between things?
Amr: Young Boy! When any organ has some doubt about a thing, which it smells, sees or tastes, it brings the matter to the mind and it is the mind, which confirms the truth and removes the doubt.
 
Hesham: So, from what you have said, do you want me to understand that God Almighty has created and designed the mind to guide the organs and remove doubts?
Amr: Yes! It is so.
 
Hesham: So the mind is a necessity, otherwise the organs could not work independently.
Amr: Yes.
 
Hesham: Please Sir! Proclaim your opinion with fairness and justice on this point also. If the Almighty has not left the organs of man's body without the guidance of the mind, how is it possible that Almighty God could leave millions of His creatures without an IMAM to guide and solve their problems arising out of doubts and conflicts? Should not our common sense accept this fact?
 
On hearing this logic argument, and having no answer to give, Amr Bin Ubeid kept silent and went into deep thinking.






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