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Fwd: [bangla-vision] I told you so. Both Tarek Fatah & Mike Ghouse were writing nonsense. RE: Obama's magic. RE: [shaziaslist] NY Mosque: MCC's Raheel Raza on Fox TV's O'Reilly



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From: kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn.com>
Date: 2010/8/11
Subject: [bangla-vision] I told you so. Both Tarek Fatah & Mike Ghouse were writing nonsense. RE: Obama's magic. RE: [shaziaslist] NY Mosque: MCC's Raheel Raza on Fox TV's O'Reilly

 

US govt sending ground zero mosque imam to Mideast


Wednesday, 11 Aug, 2010
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Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, executive director of the Cordoba Initiative, addresses a gathering as groups planning a proposed mosque and cultural center near Ground Zero in Lower Manhattan to be named Cordoba House showed and spoke about their plans for the center at a community board meeting in New York . Imam Rauf will be heading to the Middle East soon as a special state-sponsored trip by the United States. – AP Photo
WASHINGTON: The imam behind controversial plans for a mosque near the site of the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks is being sent by the State Department on a religious outreach trip to the Middle East, officials said Tuesday, in a move that drew criticism from conservative lawmakers.
The department is sponsoring Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf's visit to Qatar, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, where he will discuss Muslim life in America and promote religious tolerance, spokesman P.J. Crowley said. He said the imam had been on two similar trips and that plans for the upcoming tour predated the mosque controversy.
"We have a long-term relationship with him," Crowley told reporters, noting that Rauf had visited Bahrain, Morocco, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar in 2007 and went to Egypt last January as part of an exchange program run by the State Department's Office of International Information Programs.
"His work on tolerance and religious diversity is well-known and he brings a moderate perspective to foreign audiences on what it's like to be a practicing Muslim in the United States," Crowley said.
Rauf will not be allowed to raise funds for the proposed center during the trip, Crowley said.
Two Republican members of Congress, Reps. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and Peter King, called government sponsorship of Rauf's trip "unacceptable" in a joint statement. They said he had suggested in at least one interview that the United States was to blame for the 2001 attacks and that taxpayer money should not be used to fund the tour.
"The State Department's selection of Feisal Abdul Rauf to represent the American people through this program further calls into question the administration's policy and funding priorities," Ros-Lehtinen and King, who are the ranking members of the Foreign Affairs and Homeland Security committees, said in their statement.
The mosque, to be located two blocks from ground zero, would be part of a 13-story, $100 million Islamic center that would feature a 500-seat auditorium, a swimming pool and a gym. It's a project of the Cordoba Initiative, an advocacy group that promotes improved relations between Islam and the West.
The mosque has drawn vocal opposition from many relatives of Sept. 11 victims and local and national Republican leaders. The Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish civil rights group, is also opposed.
Crowley said the Obama administration has no position on Rauf's plans, which he termed a local zoning matter for New York. But he acknowledged that the State Department had posted a transcript of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg's Aug. 3 speech defending the project on a website that it runs for foreign audiences.
"We posted it because we thought it was useful for people overseas to understand perspectives on this issue," Crowley said. "We certainly support what the mayor was underscoring, which is the history of religious diversity and religious tolerance in his city."
In addition to the original English language version of Bloomberg's speech, the department has posted Arabic and Farsi translations of the remarks in which the mayor adamantly rejected opposition to the mosque.
New York Gov. David Paterson on Tuesday offered state assistance if developers agree to move the project farther from the Sept. 11 site. While saying he doesn't oppose the project as planned, the governor indicated that he understands the views of its opponents and said he was willing to intervene to seek other suitable state property.
"I think it's rather clear that building a center there meets all the requirements, but it does seem to ignite an immense amount of anxiety among the citizens of New York and people everywhere, and I think not without cause," Paterson said during a news conference in Manhattan.
"I am very sensitive to the desire of those who are adamant against it to see something else worked out," he said.
The developers declined to comment on Paterson's suggestion. Bloomberg declined to comment through a spokesman. – AP

 

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Subject: Obama's magic. RE: [shaziaslist] NY Mosque: MCC's Raheel Raza on Fox TV's O'Reilly
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:35:57 -0700


Obama's Magic: A Mosque near Ground Zero.
 We Need the Rod of Moses to Swallow Pharoah's Snakes
by Kaukab Siddique
 
      Some US Muslims supported by  some American Jews, in particular mayor Bloomberg of New York, have seemingly won the case to construct a magnificent mosque near Ground Zero. Other Americans, particularly the relatives of 9.11 victims, are opposing the mosque. The debate has been waxing and waning with strong arguments on both sides.
 
[For overseas readers, Ground Zero is the place where the Twin Towers stood before they were struck by Muhammad Atta and 18 other Muslims who used American airliners as their weapons. One tower fell over the other, leading to the destruction of both. Americans have been traumatized since the 9.11 attacks. Unable to believe that unarmed assailsnts could wreak so much damage, various people have come up with  conspiracy theories to explain how 19 Muslims could break through the American security network to create havoc in America's high value economic assets.]
 
President Obama has tried to reverse the perception of war between America and Islam. He is one of the most intellectual presidents America has ever had and he is working hard to clean up the confusion and damage President Bush  created. Bush had been taken totally by surprise when the Muslims penetrated the cross referenced American defense patterns. He used the occasion to go to war with the full force of the military. Unfortunately victory became more and more difficult as Islamic resistance slowly but steadily stiffened.
 
Obama's line is that America is not against Islam. Bush  made the same claim but Obama is more persuasive and eloquent with his seemingly superior intellectual ability. He did blunder into his "we are friends of Islam" campaign by starting off in Egypt. Even the gullible could not help noticing that Egypt is one of the worst human rights offenders against active Muslims. However, Obama has tried to patch over the mistake by continuing to send nice messages on Eid and by recruiting pliable but pious looking Muslims, including a Hafize Qur'an, a woman with a head cover and a "we are for peace" Aga Khani, into the White House public relations network.
 
The mosque at Ground Zero is part of the "soothe Islam" campaign. Part of the White House polemic is that Muhammad Atta as well as the Taliban killed and/or are killing Muslims. A few, very few, Muslims were killed in the Twin Towers. This is the "evidence'' used to 'prove' that the 19 hijackers wanted to kill Muslims. When the Taliban react to bombing by B-52s and B-1s, multiple rocket fire from drones and targeting by heavy artillery, with martyrdom operations, that is again seen as evidence that the Taliban kill Muslims. After all Taliban attacks lack the precision of "smart" bombs and some civilians do get killed. Do the Taliban want to kill Muslims? That's a difficult question which would mess up the White House' patterns of thought.
 
So the mosque at Ground Zero would prove that "Islam" and America are united against "terrorism."
 
The majority of the relatives of the 9.11 victims do not understand the sophistry of President Obama. They protest and obstruct the mosque and are supported by  right wing extremists who wish that Bush had had another term.
 
Many Muslims have been beguiled. They don't notice this:
 
1. The mosque is a multi-million dollar project. It could not possibly be funded by any independent Muslim group.
 
2. MAS and other Muslim cliques which are supporting this mosque are known for their support of the government [whoever is in the White House] not unlike the Qadianis ["ahmedis"] and Aga Khanis.
 
3. Support for the mosque is coming from the Jewish-Zionist lobby, in particular mayor Bloomberg.
 
Non-Muslims too are divided and don't understand President Obama's agenda. Large crowds led by Spencer, a man with a twisted mind who wrote a hate filled and dishonest book against Islam, have been protesting the mosque. Sarah Palin has weighed in. Some Jews [ADL] have also turned against it. The extreme right wing could nullify Obama's efforts or at least blur his mission.
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Note from NY: Rabbis Want the Mosque!
 
This proposed Center near Ground Zero has the support of Jewish Mayor Michael Bloomberg (or Bloombucks as activist New Yorkers call him).  On August 5th, a few rabbis rallied in support of the mosque being built. 
 
Sis. Aisha [Jamaat al-Muslimeen New York City]
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Subject: Re: [shaziaslist] NY Mosque: MCC's Raheel Raza on Fox TV's O'Reilly
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:28:48 -0400
To: tarekfatah@rogers.com


Tarek wrote: 
I was there in Dallas on July 2-4 and noticed the conspicuous absence of the Stars and Stripes at the convention of some of the riches Pakistanis in America. What does this say to the ordinary American?

Perhaps you didn't attend the Saturday night dinner which was  the main event so to say.
Stars and stripes were hanging there and the guests stood up to honor the National Anthem. Any more dis information mr tarek?



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On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Tarek Fatah <tarekfatah@rogers.com> wrote:

I was there in Dallas on July 2-4 and noticed the conspicuous absence of the Stars and Stripes at the convention of some of the riches Pakistanis in America. What does this say to the ordinary American?
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